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Hi Folks,
I am trying to find the time of when a particular command was executed.
We ussually use c shell and the history command only tells the what
command was executed. It is important for us to find the time of a
particular user when it was executed. Is there any log file foruser
activity or this kind.
Or Is there anyway to find this?

Thanks in advance.


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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jahanur R Subedar wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> I am trying to find the time of when a particular command was executed.
> We ussually use c shell and the history command only tells the what
> command was executed. It is important for us to find the time of a
> particular user when it was executed. Is there any log file foruser
> activity or this kind.
> Or Is there anyway to find this?

If you have process accounting enabled (accounting="YES" in /etc/rc.conf),
each program executed is logged in the binary file /var/account/acct
(which is automatically rotated dailiy).  Information in the acct file may
be listed with the lastcomm(1) command.

Note that the information may not be as trustworthy as it appears.  For
example, a user may create a symbolic link pointing to a program, and the
program name recorded in lastcomm will be the name of the link, not that
name of the actual program executed.

Guy

-- 
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Sr. Software Engineer, Palisade Systems         ---   ghelmer@palisadesys.com
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Wrote Vincent Poy on Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 07:40:02PM SGT
| =20
|  	yeah, they don't but doesn't AboveNet peer with everyone, it seems
|  like it will take a few gigs of routes for those.

you typically do not get anything close to a full view when you peer. A peer
only announce itself and it's customer. Hence, u can have many peers but it=
's
rarely that u'll see 'gigs' of routes for all the peers.

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On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:52:59PM -1000, Vincent Poy wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Jesper Skriver wrote:
> > A Cisco router carrying full routing today really need 256 MB of memory,
> > it can just be in 128 MB of memory, but that's VERY tight.
> 
> 	Yeah but what I mean is that's probably with very few peers.  What
> happened if you had like a lot of peers?  

-- quote --
How Much Memory Does Each BGP Route Consume?

Each Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) entry takes about 240 bytes of memory
in the BGP table and another 240 bytes in the IP routing table. Each BGP
path takes about 110 bytes. 

Under normal circumstances, memory utilization depends on the following
three factors: 

     number of prefixes (240 bytes per prefix)

     number of routes (240 bytes per route)

     number of alternate paths (110 bytes per alternate path) 

As an example, let's say you're receiving 50,000 prefixes from four BGP
neighbors, and all of them make it into the routing table: 

     BGP table: 50000 * 240 = 12,000,000 bytes

     Routing table: 50000 * 240 = 12,000,000 bytes

     Alternate paths: 50000 * 110 * 4 = 22,000,000 bytes 

In this case, you'll need approximately 46 MB of RAM, not counting the
RAM needed to support Cisco IOS Software, Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs),
and so on. 
-- unquote --

The above is over estimated as not all routes will have different AS
paths, the below is from a router taking 4 full views + some partial
views.

BGP table version is 34619196, main routing table version 34619196
115916 network entries and 345514 paths using 23334608 bytes of memory
75815 BGP path attribute entries using 3639120 bytes of memory
471 BGP rrinfo entries using 11304 bytes of memory
60418 BGP AS-PATH entries using 1502272 bytes of memory
379 BGP community entries using 10516 bytes of memory
98416 BGP route-map cache entries using 1574656 bytes of memory
Dampening enabled. 290 history paths, 72 dampened paths
BGP activity 794102/678186 prefixes, 23640513/23294999 paths


> And a question, on a Cisco
> router, does the following basically do the route announcements?
>
> router bgp <your ASN>
>  bgp dampening

BGP dampning has nothing to do with announcing routes, go read the
documentation, it's public available.

>  network x.x.x.x
> 
> 	So basically it will announce the network x.x.x.x to the upstream
> provider with my ASN on it and then the upstream will automatically add
> their AS to it when it announces up another level?

Yes, this is how BGP works.

/Jesper

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Work:    Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks)
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One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.


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On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Guy Helmer wrote:
> Note that the information may not be as trustworthy as it appears.  For
> example, a user may create a symbolic link pointing to a program, and the
> program name recorded in lastcomm will be the name of the link, not that
> name of the actual program executed.

That could be changed a la sudo.

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4.1.1 on intel box

fresh install with all libs
had to do make world to get all mappings correct (was getting problems
finding some files during the make processes for the jail setup.

following the man pages have the jail setup

once created we start the jail and begin to setup environment...

jail start command (as in man page)
	jail /usr/home/lcadmin testhostname 192.168.1.111 /bin/sh

set some environment variables with sysinstall in the jail

**problem 1: cannot set root password for jail - get "Mismatch; try
again, EOF to quit." continuously dumped to the screen... have to
reboot.

skipping that problem... we set accounts, timezone, etc...  not
installing any packages yet
add ip address to NIC... ifconfig... as in man for jail
mount the file system as in man
run jail command as in man
	jail /usr/home/lcadmin testhostname 192.168.1.111 /bin/sh /etc/rc

do a ps to ensure the jailed processes are running...  yes

**problem 2: cannot ping to IP address from host machine, cannot
connect to IP address via telnet - get "All Network ports in use" from
other machines and "time out" from host machine

not sure what the problem is...  ifconfig shows the aliased IP
address, df shows the mapped file system, ps shows the jailed
processes...

appreciate any assistance, output from the jail command listed below.

Dave



nx1# jail /usr/home/lcadmin testhostname 192.168.1.111 /bin/sh /etc/rc
Skipping disk checks ...
adjkerntz[1476]: sysctl(set_disrtcset): Operation not permitted
dmesg: /dev/mem: No such file or directory
Doing initial network setup:.
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): permission denied
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): permission denied
xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet6 fe80::250:daff:fe66:8f4c%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        inet 192.168.1.111 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
        ether 00:50:da:66:8f:4c
        media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UT
P <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX <hw-loopback>
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
route: socket: Operation not permitted
Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NOsysctl:
net.inet.tcp.rfc1323: Opera
tion not permitted
 TCP keepalive=YESsysctl: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive: Operation not
permitted
.
routing daemons:.
chflags: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
chmod: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
chown: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
additional daemons: syslogdsyslogd: child pid 1561 exited with return
code 1
.
Doing additional network setup:.
Starting final network daemons:.
setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat
setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout
starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail.
Initial rc.i386 initialization:.
rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time/etc/rc.i386: cannot open
/dev/ttyv0: no
such file
.
additional ABI support:.
Local package initialization:.
Additional TCP options:.
Sun Dec 31 16:55:09 MST 2000
nx1#



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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jesper Skriver wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 03:52:59PM -1000, Vincent Poy wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Jesper Skriver wrote:
> > > A Cisco router carrying full routing today really need 256 MB of memory,
> > > it can just be in 128 MB of memory, but that's VERY tight.
> >
> > 	Yeah but what I mean is that's probably with very few peers.  What
> > happened if you had like a lot of peers?
>
> -- quote --
> How Much Memory Does Each BGP Route Consume?
>
> Each Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) entry takes about 240 bytes of memory
> in the BGP table and another 240 bytes in the IP routing table. Each BGP
> path takes about 110 bytes.
>
> Under normal circumstances, memory utilization depends on the following
> three factors:
>
>      number of prefixes (240 bytes per prefix)
>
>      number of routes (240 bytes per route)
>
>      number of alternate paths (110 bytes per alternate path)
>
> As an example, let's say you're receiving 50,000 prefixes from four BGP
> neighbors, and all of them make it into the routing table:
>
>      BGP table: 50000 * 240 = 12,000,000 bytes
>
>      Routing table: 50000 * 240 = 12,000,000 bytes
>
>      Alternate paths: 50000 * 110 * 4 = 22,000,000 bytes
>
> In this case, you'll need approximately 46 MB of RAM, not counting the
> RAM needed to support Cisco IOS Software, Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs),
> and so on.
> -- unquote --
>
> The above is over estimated as not all routes will have different AS
> paths, the below is from a router taking 4 full views + some partial
> views.
>
> BGP table version is 34619196, main routing table version 34619196
> 115916 network entries and 345514 paths using 23334608 bytes of memory
> 75815 BGP path attribute entries using 3639120 bytes of memory
> 471 BGP rrinfo entries using 11304 bytes of memory
> 60418 BGP AS-PATH entries using 1502272 bytes of memory
> 379 BGP community entries using 10516 bytes of memory
> 98416 BGP route-map cache entries using 1574656 bytes of memory
> Dampening enabled. 290 history paths, 72 dampened paths
> BGP activity 794102/678186 prefixes, 23640513/23294999 paths

	This is pretty interesting since I know it seems like everyone
seems to show a different amount of routes depending upon which Cisco
router is looked upon.

> > And a question, on a Cisco
> > router, does the following basically do the route announcements?
> >
> > router bgp <your ASN>
> >  bgp dampening
>
> BGP dampning has nothing to do with announcing routes, go read the
> documentation, it's public available.

	I know what it does, it has something to do so the router doesn't
flap according to what Avi Freedman wrote but it seems like there is no
way to do this statement in zebra.

> >  network x.x.x.x
> >
> > 	So basically it will announce the network x.x.x.x to the upstream
> > provider with my ASN on it and then the upstream will automatically add
> > their AS to it when it announces up another level?
>
> Yes, this is how BGP works.

	Thanks, after reading all the docs, I was a bit lost in how to do
the announcement of routes since I know how to take the routes from the
peers.


Cheers,
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Seo Boon, NG wrote:

> Wrote Vincent Poy on Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 07:40:02PM SGT
> |
> |  	yeah, they don't but doesn't AboveNet peer with everyone, it seems
> |  like it will take a few gigs of routes for those.
>
> you typically do not get anything close to a full view when you peer. A peer
> only announce itself and it's customer. Hence, u can have many peers but it's
> rarely that u'll see 'gigs' of routes for all the peers.

	Yes but aren;t you supposed to get routes from each peer to build
your own routing table?


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++ 31/12/00 18:29 -0500 - Dave VanAuken:
>4.1.1 on intel box

If you get a chance, cvsup to 4.2-stable.

> [snip]
>
>**problem 1: cannot set root password for jail - get "Mismatch; try
>again, EOF to quit." continuously dumped to the screen... have to
>reboot.

weird.. maybe a stdin problem?  It only asks you once, then it just scrolls 
that?  (once you get your jail running below, try running this again and see if
you get the same result...)

>
>skipping that problem... we set accounts, timezone, etc...  not
>installing any packages yet
>add ip address to NIC... ifconfig... as in man for jail
>mount the file system as in man
>run jail command as in man
>	jail /usr/home/lcadmin testhostname 192.168.1.111 /bin/sh /etc/rc
>
>do a ps to ensure the jailed processes are running...  yes
>
>**problem 2: cannot ping to IP address from host machine, cannot
>connect to IP address via telnet - get "All Network ports in use" from
>other machines and "time out" from host machine

Time out from host machine and you can't ping it from the host machine -- sounds
like you aliased the IP wrong.  What is the exact ifconfig line you typed?

All network ports == can't find ttys to use.  Did you 'sh MAKEDEV jail' in your
$jail/dev directory?

>[snip]
>chflags: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
>chmod: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
>chown: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This confirms that you haven't MAKEDEV jail'd correctly (or the MAKEDEV you have
is problematic -- this is why you might want to cvsup to 4.2-stable)

>[snip]
>/dev/ttyv0: no
>such file
Again..

>[snip]

Good luck -- jail is a really neat toy once you have it running.

-pete

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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Vincent Poy wrote:

> > you typically do not get anything close to a full view when you peer. A peer
> > only announce itself and it's customer. Hence, u can have many peers but it's
> > rarely that u'll see 'gigs' of routes for all the peers.
> 
> 	Yes but aren;t you supposed to get routes from each peer to build
> your own routing table?

  Different meanings of the word "peer".  It can mean any BGP peer, or it
can mean a network peer, as opposed to a provider-customer relationship.
If Sprint and MCI were to establish a new interconnection, they will peer,
and usually offer each other routes for their own AS only so they don't
transit traffic for each other.

  BGP route table sizes are likely different everywhere.  There can
differences in filters (either on what is being let in, or being let out).
Some carriers have rather restrictive route acceptance policies.  
Typically route filters are designed to prevent tiny network routes from
filling their tables.  Also, routes for private local ASes are cause
differences.

  Can we please let this thread die now?  If you want to learn about BGP
one fact at time, you'll be here a _long_ time.

Tom



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will do a cvsup to 4.2-stable and go through it again.

will be reproducing this ona  few machines though (once the bugs are
worked out)...  currently working off of the  4.1.1 ISO, is there a
shorter way of getting the 4.2 stable rather than doing a 4.1.1
install and then cvsup'ing it?

thanks, and will reply back with the results after the upgrade and
reinstall.


some answers to your questions...

- aliased the IP address using the following:
ifconfig xl0 inet alias 192.168.1.111 netmask 255.255.255.255 (tried
255.255.255.0 as well)

- yes did makedev jail in the jail/dev directory (did again to double
check but was sure I did)


will do the 4.2 up and see if that resolves it...  really looking
forward to this.  While we are working on that...  any feedback as to
the load imposed by each virtual machine?  the installation I am
looking at not is about 100mb of disk space, though I havn't tried to
streamline that yet (trying to get it functional first)

Dave

-----Original Message-----
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++ 31/12/00 18:29 -0500 - Dave VanAuken:
>4.1.1 on intel box

If you get a chance, cvsup to 4.2-stable.

> [snip]
>
>**problem 1: cannot set root password for jail - get "Mismatch; try
>again, EOF to quit." continuously dumped to the screen... have to
>reboot.

weird.. maybe a stdin problem?  It only asks you once, then it just
scrolls
that?  (once you get your jail running below, try running this again
and see if
you get the same result...)

>
>skipping that problem... we set accounts, timezone, etc...  not
>installing any packages yet
>add ip address to NIC... ifconfig... as in man for jail
>mount the file system as in man
>run jail command as in man
>	jail /usr/home/lcadmin testhostname 192.168.1.111 /bin/sh /etc/rc
>
>do a ps to ensure the jailed processes are running...  yes
>
>**problem 2: cannot ping to IP address from host machine, cannot
>connect to IP address via telnet - get "All Network ports in use"
from
>other machines and "time out" from host machine

Time out from host machine and you can't ping it from the host
machine -- sounds
like you aliased the IP wrong.  What is the exact ifconfig line you
typed?

All network ports == can't find ttys to use.  Did you 'sh MAKEDEV
jail' in your
$jail/dev directory?

>[snip]
>chflags: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
>chmod: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
>chown: /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]*: No such file or directory
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This confirms that you haven't MAKEDEV jail'd correctly (or the
MAKEDEV you have
is problematic -- this is why you might want to cvsup to 4.2-stable)

>[snip]
>/dev/ttyv0: no
>such file
Again..

>[snip]

Good luck -- jail is a really neat toy once you have it running.

-pete

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